why are LIVE scoring systems so BAD?

For me SmartScoring has been the worst way to follow LIVE scores at a Gymnastics competition.

And it seems to fail. Regularly.

Some people like LiveMeet, which is what we use in Canada. Personally I find the interface unappealing and slow. It’s like a webpage from the 1990s.

Longines is pretty. But I’m often confused with the layout.

Rachael points out that the system used for the PanAm Championships is quite good. A very clear and intuitive interface than anyone can use instantly. And it includes a lot of data.

FIG WTC Antwerp Worlds Report

2023 FIG Artistic Gymnastics World Championships Antwerp, BEL

Women’s Artistic Gymnastics Technical Committee Report

2023 MAG MTC report

2023 World ChampionshipsAntwerp (BEL) Men’s Technical Committee Report

By Mr. Arturs MICKEVICS

President Men’s Technical Committee

new MAG skills in the Code

FIG Men’s Technical Committee (MTC) announced:

  • 3.5-twisting double salto on Floor – Minami Kazuki
  • 3.5-twisting double salto layout on Floor – Jake Jarman
  • Pommel Horse – Michael Reid
  • Rings – Zou Jingyuan
  • H Bar dismount – Andres Valverde
  • Pommels – Dachi Dolidze

Performed at the 2023 FIG World Cup in Doha (QAT) by Minami Kazuki (JPN). The first skill in the video, not the second.

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Performed at the 2023 Pan American Championships in Medellin (COL) by Michael Reid (JAM)

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Performed at the 2023 World University Games in Chengdu (CHN) by Zou Jingyuan (CHN)

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Performed at the 2023 FIG World Challenge Cup in Paris (FRA) by Jake Jarman (GBR)

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Performed at the 2023 Pan American Games in Santiago (CHI) by Andres Valverde (CRC)

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In addition, this skill was performed at the 2023 Artistic Gymnastics World Junior Championships in Antalya (TUR) by Dachi Dolidze (GEO).

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stuck landings Tokyo Olympics

In slow motion.

It’s much tougher to STICK than they make it look.

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Thanks Jeff.

give Zou Jingyuan a 10

After Rebeca scored 9.733 execution on what many would consider a perfect Cheng, there has been discussion online. 😀

ALL agree that FIG judges in 2023 “box” the execution scores too much. The difference between best and worst is not accurately reflected by differences in E score.

Judges do this in order to stay in range, and not get in trouble from the FIG WTC.

Personally, I’d like to see the rare 10.0 execution score. (Certainly there are too many in WAG NCAA, some obviously not even close to being deserved.)

IF the performance is significantly superior to anyone else in the world — and there are no obvious deductions — it should get a 10 execution score.

I’ve seen several P Bar routines from Zou Jingyuan where I would have NO DEDUCTIONS recorded on my judging sheet. For example.

BEST CHENG EVER !

I can’t stop watching this Vault.

In regular speed I’d have to award a 10.0 Execution score.

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Andrade and Maroney

We have to start ranking Rebeca’s Cheng from PanAm Vault Final 2023 with the BEST Vault of all time. #respect

NEW H Bar dismount – Hayden 1/1

At PanAms, Costa Rican gymnast, Andrés Valverde, used what you might call Double Layout over the bar with double twist.

A single twist is named for Dan Hayden.

The Valverde is a dismount I’ve never seen before. Should be a new element in the Code of Points.

Note – Andrés competed in Santiago only 7 months after Achilles surgery.

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JUDGING the FIG judges

The BIGGEST problem with Artistic Gymnastics judging is the Execution Score range between best and worst.

That range is too small — therefore it’s mostly Difficulty Score that decides ranking.

This article doesn’t address the BIG issue, but it is interesting to see how FIG is evaluating their judges.

Dr Hugues Mercier speaks exclusively to Olympics.com about his 10-year project that evaluates judges’ performance in disciplines such as artistic and rhythmic gymnastics. …

“Judging a routine in pommel horse is intrinsically much more difficult than judging a routine in vault, and it’s very important for the tools we provide to be fair. So, I always tell the judges that the mathematical tools that we use take into account that judging in pommel horse is difficult.

Olympics.com