Therefore, in the 2016 Code of Points FIG TCs opted to make it even more difficult for the general public to know who won.
FINALS score = (DV 1+DV2)/2 + 10.0 -(E1+E2)
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… In my opinion, this will not go over well because the coaches, the gymnasts, and the fans like to see big scores, and with this scoring system the scores are much lower. My example vaulter is the reigning World Champion of vaulting, the one and only McKayla Maroney …
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“In my opinion, this will not go over well because the coaches, the gymnasts, and the fans like to see big scores, and with this scoring system the scores are much lower. ”
For me, the whole new code is structured basically so there aren’t many “big scores” anymore. Not in the sense that you can look at the score and go, “That’s big!” You have to know the start value to be able to tell how well the gymnast really did and while you’re sitting there checking the fine print, the wow factor has dissappeared into thin air somewhere.
The reason they opted to use this formula is that it puts more weight on execution and less weight on difficulty. This means there is less of an incentive to chuck a harder vault with poor form. I can’t see why this is a bad thing?
See- Mustafina, Bross, etc.
That’s a good thing. I think.
The downside is that it’s even more difficult for the general public to know who “won”.
DIVING is far superior. The score is flashed before the diver is out of the water.
I think some people overestimate how much the “general public” needs to know every little detail of how the scoring works in order to enjoy a sport. It helps, but it’s not everything.
How many of the millions of people who watch football, baseball, and hockey really understand the all details of the scoring?
How many people watching the baseball playoffs could really explain the infield fly rule?
The “general public” will know who won when they see who got the most points. The formula could always be flashed on the screen.
Or course, the judges could just started giving appropriate E scores to very poorly executed vaults…it seems a little convaluted to correct for this problem they way the FIG did it rather than try to fix the problem at the source.
I think that its ok, because it will bring the scores more inline with the other events…
Its really not that big of a deal in my mind
I don’t understand the formula.
FINALS score = (DV 1+DV2)/2 + 10.0 -(E1+E2)
But 10.0-(9.8+8.7) is a negative number. Is that what they mean to do?
Is that both WAG and MAG or just WAG?
JC: Order of Operations.
Coach Rick is absolutely right about the downside. Judged sports are much different than sports like football or baseball. A closer comparison is figure skating, another judged sport. The Int’l Skating Union took away the 6.0 system which the casual viewer understood. Now someone wins 197.48 to 173.22. But you have no idea why there is that huge gap in scores. Figure skating’s popularity plummeted after this change, which was supposed to make the sport fairer and eliminate judging issues. Now the casual viewer can’t understand it, so they’ve turned to other sports. Also, there are rarely close competitions anymore. No more exciting Battle of the Brians like the 1988 Olympics. It’s a real concern for gymnastics, too. Interesting that the two sports bother with allegations of corrupt and colluding judges, too, although I think it’s much worse in figure skating.
I don’t think being able to immediately understand a sport is essential for it to be popular. Sure, football is super easy to understand, but on the other hand gridiron (american football) is very hard to understand and confusing for people who are new to it. Outside of USA people have no idea what is going on and find it exceedingly boring. It is the media coverage which determines how popular a sport will be. If a sport receives a lot of media coverage, people will take the time to understand it. If gymnastics is going to become popular it needs to build up relationships with the media and needs to give them a reason to cover it. The rules are only a secondary issue.
Jen, that’s not correct. JC, the E1 and E2 are the execution deductions.
The formula looks more complicated than it actually is. You add the D and E scores as usual. The D-score is the average of the two vaults’ D-scores. The E-score is the deductions for both vaults taken from 10.
“Hell Yes Komachi”, both MAG and WAG.
One more thing… I have been pushing for this FOR YEARS. I am glad to see it finally adopted.
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