Kasamatsu 3 1/2 twist

López (Kas + double twist) is in the Code at 6.0.

An extra half twist takes this to 6.4, I assume. Keisuke Ogura competed it at the NHK cup. The first time ever LANDED, I believe. :-)

Click PLAY or watch it on twitter.

Oops. Nico recalled that Yang Hak Seon landed it in competition at the Korea Cup. Keisuke’s is the second in history.

Click PLAY or watch it on YouTube.

Thanks Cabriole.

reducing Olympic Team size?

Steve Butcher:

The new Olympic Artistic Gymnastics format for 2020 has been approved. Teams will be 4 All-Around gymnasts and the best countries may qualify up to 2 individual gymnasts (All-Around or Specialist). This is a big change for gymnastics!!!!

… the team format will be four gymnasts, four compete on each appataus, and three scores count. The best countries will be able to qualify up to two individual gymnasts also through World Cups, Challenge Cups, and Continental Championships.

There are many other formulas for AA gymnasts to qualify outside of the teams. The final details are still to be worked out, but the format is now set. I am one of the few that did not support this major change.

The gymternet is pretty much universally against this decision. (There’s already a petition against it on Change.org.) We’ve seen teams reduced from 7 members to 4 members over the years.

On the other hand, in London 5 Americans competed. In Tokyo we could easily have 6 American women competing. It MIGHT work. But I’m worried about unforeseen, unintended consequences.

ALL agree that FIG should lobby the IOC for more spots at the Olympics for Gymnastics.

___ original post from May 11th:

Nancy Armour:

Later this week, the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) will vote on a proposal that would cut team size from its current five people to four, with a convoluted process that could allow some teams to bring two additional gymnasts, beginning with the 2020 Olympics. Those 24 extra spots – 12 for the men, 12 for the women — would be used to increase the number of event specialists at the Olympic Games and ensure that all continents are represented.

In theory, it’s a well-intentioned idea. In practice, it’s unnecessary and excessive …

Armour: Addition by subtraction won’t add up for Olympic gymnastics

Almost every fan agrees with Nancy Armour.

But – playing the Devil’s Advocate – could a 4-person team in Japan be as entertaining?

Tokyo Olympics 2020
Tokyo Olympics 2020

In London the format was 5-4-3, five gymnasts on the team, four competed on each event, and three of the scores counted.

The Team Final was 3-up, 3-count. Here’s the Gold medal Team:

Gabby Douglas
Jordyn Wieber
Aly Raisman
Kyla Ross
McKayla Maroney

In London we saw 16 (prelims) + 12 (team finals) = 28 American routines.

What if Teams were 4 competitors, but all competed?

16 (prelims) + 16 (team finals) = 32 American routines.

What if McKayla Maroney had not been named to the 4-person American Team. But qualified as a Vault specialist instead? What if both Maroney & Sacramone were named as the USA specialists?

It could work.

My guess is that FIG will not reduce Team size, in the end.
(I was wrong.)

related – Turn Gymnastics – The Future Focus: Growing The Sport

an unfair deduction – “chest low”

In NCAA Gymnastics in particular, I keep hearing people refer to “chest low on landing” deduction.

Yet in the current FIG Women’s Code of Points I see only this reference: Landing faults ~ Body posture fault = 0.1 or 0.3 deduction

An angled chest on landing is not necessarily a “body posture fault”, though it could be. If the impact forces are not safely and smoothly brought to zero, the gymnast can be deducted. Regardless of the angle of the chest.

For example, here’s a good landing that should not be deducted. Check the angle hip to shoulder on first contact.

chest angle on contact

landing sequence

How many judges are deducting that landing?

None in Men’s Gymnastics. Few in FIG WAG Gymnastics. But in College Gymnastics gymnasts are wrongly penalized, in my opinion. The good lady judges of the NCAA have so few deductions to take, they incorrectly jump on “chest low”.

Leave a comment if you have an opinion on this. Especially if you are a College judge.

Those graphics come from a study by Gittoes, Irwin and Kerwin. Kinematic Landing Strategy Transference in Backward Rotating Gymnastic Dismounts in the Journal of Applied Biomechanics.

related – deduction for “chest low” on landing

MTC NEWSLETTER #29 clarifications

II. Pommel Horse- circles and flairs to handstand (dismounts and returning to the horse)

There is no deduction for bending of the hips while attempting to reach a handstand from circles or flairs. Deductions can be taken for hesitation, strength, bent arms, lowering of the hips, and unsteadiness.

In contrast scissors to handstand do have a deduction for bending of the hips.

IV. Handguard (grip) Break during an Exercise (Rings or Horizontal Bar)

A gymnast with a significantly torn handguard (grip), causing a fall or interruption, may repeat the entire exercise without deduction at the end of the rotation with approval by the Superior Jury or, if they are the last gymnast in the rotation, at a time at the discretion of the Superior Jury.

The gymnast must immediately show the broken handguard (grip) to the D1 judge before leaving the podium in order to receive permission to repeat the exercise.

recall Zhang at Worlds 2014?
recall Zhang at Worlds 2014?


V. Falls (time permitted to restart exercise)

Gymnasts receive a -1.0 deduction for all falls from the apparatus and have 30 seconds (after the gymnast is on his feet) to restart their exercise. If the gymnast exceeds the allowable time to resume their exercise, an additional -0.3 N.D. for excessive time will be applied if the gymnast continues their exercise. The exercise will be terminated if the gymnast has not resumed within 60 seconds.

No salute is necessary to resume an exercise from a fall. The exercise officially resumes when the feet leave the mat.


PETROUNIAS Eleftherios – Rings

Classy. Fingers extended on Crosses.

Click PLAY or watch the Gold medal on YouTube.

1. Back Roll to Planche E IV
2. Lower Back Lever to Maltese E IV
3. Back Roll to Maltese F IV
4. Felge to Hdst C II
5. Back Uprise to Planche D III
6. Back Lever to Cross D IV
7. Whippet to Cross D III
8. Yamawaki Pk D I
9. Back Uprise to Hdst C II
10. Double Back 2/1 E V

D:6.8 + E:9.066
Score: 15.866

King of Gymnastics has all the European Championships Finals routines with a judging breakdown of each.

Thanks Ono.

Alex McMurtry – Bars

Here’s the controversial routine from Super 6 Team Finals. It clinches the Gator’s win over Utah.

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Would you have gone 9.95?

Maybe not. But Balance Beam Situation felt – overall – that Florida had a slightly stronger meet than Utah. Overall.

That’s how if felt to me sitting in the stands too. In the absurd scoring system used in College Gymnastics, a close meet can always go either way.


… what desperately needs to be done, IMMEDIATELY, is to allow all judges to throw half tenth deductions, at all meets, all the time.

Also, require an extra judge on the panel, at least at post-season meets. These simple, behind-the-scenes fixes will eliminate the endless, silly ties (25 people in vault finals), without changing the scoring system one bit. …

Click PLAY or watch Bridget Sloan’s 9.95 Bars on YouTube. For comparison.

Alberto Busnari – Pommels

European Championships 2015
1. SMITH Louis (GBR) D:6.9
2. MERDINYAN Harutyum (ARM) D:6.7
3. BUSNARI Alberto (ITA)D:6.8

Click PLAY or watch Busnari on YouTube. (G and F flare back to flare skills)

King of Gymnastics has all the Finals routines with a difficulty breakdown.

Thanks Ono.