I’m surprised how many coaches defended the current Code and FIG rules on Floor in the comments of this provocatively titled post – FIG ruined Men’s Floor.
I disagree.
In 2011 the FIG Floor Exercise rules are not working. (Report Card). Routines are rushed, ugly and repetitive.
… But there is one point on which we agree. Today there are too many combination passes, not enough BIG TRICKS.
Future rule changes should encourage at least one “BIG TRICK”. Winning routines should include a triple back, triple twisting double back or something equally uniquely impressive. The best BIG TRICK tumblers should win.
Which of these BIG tricks do you like best?
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There should be no surprise here.
That the FIG ruined MAG floor is your opinion, to which you are entitled.
But it’s just that…an opinion. Obviously, many people do not share it. Not everybody sees the world the same way. What is ugly to you might be beautiful to someone else. That’s just how it is.
I like big tricks and I cannot lie, but if somebody can go out there and win with the lowest D score and the highest E score, I would be down with it.
Ono, my biggest problem with high E scores is that it means that gymnasts have to put a lot of risk/repetition and to me the athletes health is of my highest priority. I also agree with Rick that I wish there was more artistry in men’s floor. I like good posture, clean lines, and some of those simple skills that wow audiences.
On the other hand I love a stretch double, double and triple back.
the kolyvanov is beautiful.
Wow, getting a high E score can be unhealthy? In a way, knowing that is a relief, because I can now rest easy knowing my Tokyo hero Zou Kai will probably live to be 110.
Seriously, athletes have choices. Most of them appear to focus on the D score…which I thought stemmed from that being pretty much a sure thing (at least in MAG) as opposed to taking one’s chances with the judges.
After looking at the respective scores of Jessica Lopez and Aly Raisman on UB, that is hardly something any athlete could be blamed for.
Winning routines already include those skills. And I don’t understand the “routines are repetitive”. Each set in the finals was unique and interesting to watch. What do you mean by repetitive?
Two roll-out skills, to start.
Many twisting skills in series.
Mostly wide arm press.
No ‘interesting’ or ‘original’ elements of any kind.
Very few BIG tricks aside from the very best in the world. I’m talking about all FIG routines everywhere. Watching Chinese Individual Nationals was incredibly repetitive on every apparatus, even Vault.
haha…Rick, if you think many twisting skills in series are repetitive and ugly, then you must really hate Trampoline
One… I meant D scores.
Here’s an idea — and you can publish this if you want.
Count all double saltos as two skills. That would encourage gymnasts to do them and give big reward. Normal element group rules would apply.
That means that any gymnast with 4 double flipping skills gets 8 skills of it. Toss in a non-acro and a combo skill, and you’ve got a nice routine of 4 or 5 passes that won’t be rushed, has a lot of big skills, and gets big scores. A guy who likes to twist can do 1 or 2 double flips, and a bunch of twists with bonus for similar value but a longer routine.
It would fit into the existing FIG framework, and it would give guys choice that they don’t really have now. Is there anyone in the world that does 4 huge skills in the same routine? I can’t think of one.
I’ll add that it would still allow the roll-out skills, but make them less attractive without changing their values.
… very original.
I can’t say that anyone has proposed that before.
A guy like Legendre MIGHT be able to do BIG enough skills so that one gets more difficulty and less deduction than two combined. But that might not work unless a triple back, for example, got H-value, or something like that.
I think everyone bemoaning the lack of artistry needs to hold their respective horses. Since the open ended code was implemented there’s been a tremendous upswing in difficulty that will eventually plateau. You are already starting to see it, you can’t really get above a 7.5-7 start on high bar and rings is becoming maxed out…I don’t see much more possibility left on vault after the hand triple full and tsuk full in we saw last year. Naturally, once it becomes common for people to have ridiculously high D-scores (and it will become common) you will see a push to clean up execution and look for ways to set themselves apart from the pack.
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I like denn333′s idea.
On a side note, what the hell were FIG thinking to value Legendres 2 1/2 double at an E, a double double is an E, so adding an extra half should make it an F. Not to mention that it is a shitload harder. They are so dumb.
Agreed.
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