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By: coach Rick

coach Rick — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:23:38 +0000

Ha.

Jim agreed with you, Francis.

… Did you read the comments?

By: Francis Tally

Francis Tally — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:52:57 +0000

Intriguing that this controversy should re-arise. I remember some coaches of the day that supported the decision. Since I have just retired from judging (44 years), I no longer feel qualified to offer an opinion as to the legitimacy of that judge’s action.

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By: shergymrag

shergymrag — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:33:42 +0000

“It’s not that you completely left them out.”

Well, that changes everything.

By: blantonnick

blantonnick — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:12:00 +0000

‘Try dismounting Rings on to one leg’

Let us remember Shun Fujimoto Another inspiration to all….

By: wordsmith

wordsmith — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:24:56 +0000

in that era, coaches were unanimous that you should not have been deducted.

I remember Al Luber of Santa Monica Gymnastics Center talking about this, and he seemed to share in that consensus opinion, judging by the way he related the story.

By: coach Rick

coach Rick — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:37:48 +0000

I should have clarified, Jim, that you did “scissors” as much as possible. It’s not that you completely left them out.

… At that “friendly” meet, at that time, in that era, coaches were unanimous that you should not have been deducted.

By: Jim from Seattle

Jim from Seattle — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:03:07 +0000

it’s Rick’s perception………not mine…..

missing scissors? deduction.

my only gripe? Francis didn’t give me credit for my “little leg” undercutting (my words) the bigger leg…..should he have?
no.
no excuses, no explanations, no “exceptions” to the rules……if you’re going to play, play by the rules…..i like the notion of para-Olympics, but I wasn’t one, don’t want to be one, never wanted to be judged as one, and sure as hell don’t want to be categorized/compared as one…..

para is for disabled….that isn’t/wasn’t me…..the reason I am not/wasn’t ranked among the “greats”….is that I wasn’t one….

of course, my dachshunds love me………;->

By: wordsmith

wordsmith — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:47:38 +0000

I agree with shergymrag. If he’s missing a requirement, he’s missing a requirement. He should be treated, with respect, like everyone else and not be given special treatment to make up for his handicap. At least he was given the opportunity and not excluded from competition, based upon a perceived disability.