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December 9th, 2009 | floor (men), Gymnastics, judging
This is getting a bit rediculous.
Is this a “new skill” … (double Arabian with 1 1/2 out) … or a truly sloppy double twisting double back.
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I wouldn’t give this performance credit for any kind of new skill.
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13 comments ↓
I don’t think it’s sloppy at all: he is clearly finishing the first rotation and then he makes the twist and a half during the second one with his knees and ankles tight together.
I also agree that the skill is not actually sloopy. Yes it could be done better, but it is most certainly worth recognition. Why shouldn’t a arabian 3/2 out not be recognized, especially if its the first time it has ever been competed.
In trampoline sports they give only one skill value … regardless of where and how the twist is done.
Too many gymnasts are getting too many value parts for “similar” skills with this trend in variations of double Arabian with twist.
Perhaps “sloppy” is the wrong word.
Maybe a truly “bad” double double would be more accurate.
I only think it would be a problem if he does that AND a ‘regular’ double double in a routine. But it looks like a legitimate skill to me. Once it’s value is the same as a tucked double double then what’s the problem?
I agree with the rest Rick….not that bad at all…
It’s not sloppy but he starts the 1.5 “out” before even starting the second flip. To me it’s the same as a double double. Two twists two flips. If it’s listed as a Hypolito 3 then it needs to be considered the same element as a tucked double double. Much like a wolf 1/1 and tuck 1/1 are considered the same in the women’s code on beam.
I think that trampoline only give similar skills the same value because they are close in physical difficulty. I think the range of difficulty for a double double, and this skill is larger
I see similar issues with this and with the pineda/cassina on high bar.
I have no objections to naming the skill after Diego, but I don’t think a gymnast should be allowed to do both this and a double-double in the same routine and get credit for both.
I think that it is a wonderfoul skill!
My first impression is that it does look sloppy. Not very artistic at all. Still kinds cool, though.
Yeah it is a bit ridiculous. I don’t think I’d give it credit as a new skill – it’s a double-double to me.
Coach Rick is partly right and partly wrong, as his statement is true when the skill is performed in straight position it is neraly impossible to make a difference between different skills with the same amount of twists. Therefore is this case it is clearly a half in rudy (1 1/2) out tuck, where a full in full out tuck, double full in back out tuck or back in double full out tuck would be ruled 4 different skills in trampoline.
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