deduction for legs crossed twisting?

This gymnast clearly will never win anything.

Nastia-cross-legs

LilyPod on the IG forum started another great thread on the topic:

Can we go through the deductions for twisting form, and what is regarded as acceptable and what is not? (Not talking about height or landing here, just the leg form in the air). Where do the judges draw the line with deductions, and what deductions are given at each degree? I’m really just trying to understand …

She posted several photo examples. Click through to see them – Twisting Form and Today’s Code

6 comments ↓

#1 JJ on 12.17.09 at 1:12 am

As a gymnast, I used to cross my ankles when I twisted, and skill keep my legs tight. BUT, at one meet, I got particularly killed on a floor routine, just for this deduction. My score was actually contested, and the judges explained that they took off .1 for EACH TWIST that my ankles were crossed. So in my triple full that I stuck with a chest upright, I lost .3 in this one skill. I’m assuming that the deductions for women in FIG would be about the same, or a little less. I think that it’s a little ridiculous to expect someone to look perfectly in the air. If your ankles are crossed and legs are noticably apart, then there should be a deduction. Many people can successfully cross their ankles and keep their legs together. This isn’t noticable to most naked eyes, but can be noticed in a still photo. I think if that’s the case, then there should be no deduction. If it’s noticable in the air at regular speed, I think that there should be a deduction.

#2 Lori on 12.17.09 at 6:45 am

It’s funny, I had never noticed the crossed legs until these threads. I think it’s because when I was a competitive skater, you were *supposed* to cross your legs to get the proper rotation on jumps and get your one foot back on the ground.

#3 bob martin on 12.17.09 at 11:51 am

cross legs on twisting skills is a result of twisting the upper body before the lower body. It’s a technical flaw which is why it’s so difficult to fix.

#4 Valentin Uzunov on 12.18.09 at 3:16 am

bob martin is right, and i hate it for one. Its says “i have poor form”, and i probably learned this skill by chucking it.
If i am not mistaken the deduction for crossed legs in a 0.1, which is WAY! to low i think

#5 shergymrag on 12.18.09 at 3:46 pm

JJ, .1 for each twist of a skill? That seems ridiculous.

#6 Marcus on 12.18.09 at 8:08 pm

Why does everyone complain about crossed legs in twisting yet a gymnast can separate their legs on a pike full-in with hardly any complaints? I don’t mind either unless substantially bad, why do people have a fit about it like it’s the worst thing in the world?

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