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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://gymnasticscoaching.com/new/2009/05/near-collisions-in-gymnastics/comment-page-1/#comment-138048</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the argument.  I agree with your logic, but the common sense of it doesn&#039;t work for me.  

First of all, when this phrase is commonly used, the people using it are starting from the position of a &quot;hit&quot;.  They are using the phrase to describe something that almost hit, therefore, in that respect, the term &quot;near miss&quot; is incorrect.

Secondly, in my humble, and very often wrong, opinion, miss is more of an absolute term.  I know people use the phrase &quot;barely missed&quot; and other things like that, but to me, a miss is a miss.

Anyway, I would never throw anything at you, but you are correct about me not missing.  If I did throw something at you, it would never be a &quot;near miss&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the argument.  I agree with your logic, but the common sense of it doesn&#8217;t work for me.  </p>
<p>First of all, when this phrase is commonly used, the people using it are starting from the position of a &#8220;hit&#8221;.  They are using the phrase to describe something that almost hit, therefore, in that respect, the term &#8220;near miss&#8221; is incorrect.</p>
<p>Secondly, in my humble, and very often wrong, opinion, miss is more of an absolute term.  I know people use the phrase &#8220;barely missed&#8221; and other things like that, but to me, a miss is a miss.</p>
<p>Anyway, I would never throw anything at you, but you are correct about me not missing.  If I did throw something at you, it would never be a &#8220;near miss&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Just another opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just another opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only posting this because Troy and I have had this argument before, so for comedy&#039;s sake, I produce my position here, for all the world (or, the gymnastics community who cares about this posting) to see what kind of dork I am.

The phrase &quot;near miss&quot; is only incorrectly used if one is measuring from the direction where the hit is the starting point. If one measures &quot;nearness&quot; from the direction where missing entirely is the probable result of the action, then &quot;near miss&quot; is correctly used.

Suppose A throws a ball at B, and it lands 20 feet away. A missed by a lot. Suppose A then throws another ball at B, and this time it lands 5 feet away. A missed. On a third try, A throws a ball at B and it comes within a fraction of a millimeter from B&#039;s head. A has now performed an action that is a &quot;near&quot; miss. &quot;Near&quot; is thus being used as an adjective describing the type and quality of the miss, NOT the intended result of the action. 

If &quot;near&quot; is being used as an adverb, then it is similar to &quot;almost&quot; and &quot;near miss&quot; would mean a hit. However, &quot;near&quot; is a much more versatile and flexible word than &quot;almost,&quot; whose primary and original function was adverbial. (&quot;Near&quot; became used as an adjective in the 14th century, &quot;almost&quot; didn&#039;t come into use as an adjective until 1709.)

Merriam-Websterâ€™s Dictionary of English Usage (1994), tracing the phrase to World War II, notes its ubiquity and concludes that â€œdespite its apparent lack of logic, it is not an error.â€ Fowlerâ€™s Modern English Usage defines a near miss simply as â€œa miss that was nearly a hit.â€ (Thatâ€™s from the 1968 edition; the 1996 Fowlerâ€™s omits the phrase, which suggests that itâ€™s no longer deemed worthy of discussion.)

Indeed, the phrase &quot;nearly missed&quot; most definitely falls into the contradiction Troy discussed, as &quot;nearly&quot; is unquestionably an adverb.

In either case, Troy will likely throw a ball at my head when we next see each other, and won&#039;t miss.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only posting this because Troy and I have had this argument before, so for comedy&#8217;s sake, I produce my position here, for all the world (or, the gymnastics community who cares about this posting) to see what kind of dork I am.</p>
<p>The phrase &#8220;near miss&#8221; is only incorrectly used if one is measuring from the direction where the hit is the starting point. If one measures &#8220;nearness&#8221; from the direction where missing entirely is the probable result of the action, then &#8220;near miss&#8221; is correctly used.</p>
<p>Suppose A throws a ball at B, and it lands 20 feet away. A missed by a lot. Suppose A then throws another ball at B, and this time it lands 5 feet away. A missed. On a third try, A throws a ball at B and it comes within a fraction of a millimeter from B&#8217;s head. A has now performed an action that is a &#8220;near&#8221; miss. &#8220;Near&#8221; is thus being used as an adjective describing the type and quality of the miss, NOT the intended result of the action. </p>
<p>If &#8220;near&#8221; is being used as an adverb, then it is similar to &#8220;almost&#8221; and &#8220;near miss&#8221; would mean a hit. However, &#8220;near&#8221; is a much more versatile and flexible word than &#8220;almost,&#8221; whose primary and original function was adverbial. (&#8220;Near&#8221; became used as an adjective in the 14th century, &#8220;almost&#8221; didn&#8217;t come into use as an adjective until 1709.)</p>
<p>Merriam-Websterâ€™s Dictionary of English Usage (1994), tracing the phrase to World War II, notes its ubiquity and concludes that â€œdespite its apparent lack of logic, it is not an error.â€ Fowlerâ€™s Modern English Usage defines a near miss simply as â€œa miss that was nearly a hit.â€ (Thatâ€™s from the 1968 edition; the 1996 Fowlerâ€™s omits the phrase, which suggests that itâ€™s no longer deemed worthy of discussion.)</p>
<p>Indeed, the phrase &#8220;nearly missed&#8221; most definitely falls into the contradiction Troy discussed, as &#8220;nearly&#8221; is unquestionably an adverb.</p>
<p>In either case, Troy will likely throw a ball at my head when we next see each other, and won&#8217;t miss.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick actually called it correctly with his &quot;near-collision&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick actually called it correctly with his &#8220;near-collision&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term &quot;near-miss&quot; is always incorrectly used in these situations.  As the great George Carlin would have said, this incident was a &quot;near-hit&quot;.  Had the girl hit the little boy, that would have been a &quot;near-miss&quot;, because she would nearly have missed him.  In this case, she nearly hit him, which makes it a &quot;near-hit&quot;.  I know nobody cares about that, and I don&#039;t really either, but I think it is interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term &#8220;near-miss&#8221; is always incorrectly used in these situations.  As the great George Carlin would have said, this incident was a &#8220;near-hit&#8221;.  Had the girl hit the little boy, that would have been a &#8220;near-miss&#8221;, because she would nearly have missed him.  In this case, she nearly hit him, which makes it a &#8220;near-hit&#8221;.  I know nobody cares about that, and I don&#8217;t really either, but I think it is interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 01:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a coach I see this more often than not and its most of the time the younger kids fault.and it not just big tumbling skills either I&#039;ve seen handstand and cartwheels almost knock over preschoolers.

If possible I would have all pre-school and younger classes as far away from the rec team kids as possible.It can also be a problem with the parents of the kids we have all has those kid that for the life of us don&#039;t want to listen and just run around witch creates danger for the other kids who are minding there own buisness and folowing directions.

I know if my child were injured because of some little kid running into there line of tumble I would proab take it out on the gym manager and the parents of the other kid. It would be neglegance on the gyms part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a coach I see this more often than not and its most of the time the younger kids fault.and it not just big tumbling skills either I&#8217;ve seen handstand and cartwheels almost knock over preschoolers.</p>
<p>If possible I would have all pre-school and younger classes as far away from the rec team kids as possible.It can also be a problem with the parents of the kids we have all has those kid that for the life of us don&#8217;t want to listen and just run around witch creates danger for the other kids who are minding there own buisness and folowing directions.</p>
<p>I know if my child were injured because of some little kid running into there line of tumble I would proab take it out on the gym manager and the parents of the other kid. It would be neglegance on the gyms part.</p>
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		<title>By: Lacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheerleader&#039;s near miss? Doesn&#039;t surprise me.

During a recent mock meet at AGC, cheerleaders ran riot, passing between the judge and the gymnast. Somebody could have been seriously hurt.

Are they not taught discipline just because they&#039;re cheerleaders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheerleader&#8217;s near miss? Doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>During a recent mock meet at AGC, cheerleaders ran riot, passing between the judge and the gymnast. Somebody could have been seriously hurt.</p>
<p>Are they not taught discipline just because they&#8217;re cheerleaders?</p>
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		<title>By: AE</title>
		<link>http://gymnasticscoaching.com/new/2009/05/near-collisions-in-gymnastics/comment-page-1/#comment-137289</link>
		<dc:creator>AE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did she flip over him?? or did it just look like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did she flip over him?? or did it just look like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a gymnastics coach now a cheerleading coach this is a situation I of seen frequently at competition.  Near misses. Usually happens when there are 36 members on a 9 panel floor not because someone is not paying attention to there young child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a gymnastics coach now a cheerleading coach this is a situation I of seen frequently at competition.  Near misses. Usually happens when there are 36 members on a 9 panel floor not because someone is not paying attention to there young child.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Taucer</title>
		<link>http://gymnasticscoaching.com/new/2009/05/near-collisions-in-gymnastics/comment-page-1/#comment-137232</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Taucer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHOAH!

It&#039;s showing now, and holy monkey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHOAH!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s showing now, and holy monkey!</p>
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		<title>By: Valentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 11:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It plays now..and Ohh my..that was sooo close.. Another good reason not to have open access to gym floor haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It plays now..and Ohh my..that was sooo close.. Another good reason not to have open access to gym floor haha</p>
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