Comments on: Bruno Grandi suspects China age cheats

By: apolytongp

apolytongp — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:25:04 +0000

link to picture…

By: Nik

Nik — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:46:10 +0000

Zamo= Zamolochikova (sp?) I know a number of guys who find her devine!

By: Kayla

Kayla — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:39:41 +0000

I agree with Nik, I must say.

Troy’s comments, as well, are very apt.

By: apolytongp

apolytongp — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:28:56 +0000

Who’s zamo? Hotness photos?

By: Nik

Nik — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:48:30 +0000

I agree the age rule should be lifted-purely because it cannot be enforced can the FIG or even the IOC successfully take on the Chinese government over false papers?? Heck no. If these documents are falsified by a national government the FIG can not stand up to that.

Secondly, it is not the fault of the athletes who break it. It is the fault of the federation and the country but the athlete will be punished by medal removal.

Do I think the age rule is good for the sport? Maybe, maybe not. I’m undecided but I sure as heck know that I enjoy watching 16+ year old gymnasts more than 12 year olds, they’re more mature and generally have more personality. I also think the fact gymnasts are sticking around into their 20s is good for the non-gymnastics community spectators, some of which I have heard that they fell ‘wrong’ watching little girls compete. But with people like A-Sac and Zamo and their hotness, this has made that less of a problem!

By: Ono No Komachi

Ono No Komachi — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:23:17 +0000

It’s not OK. A boy who breaks his neck doing some crazy vault he isn’t ready for will most likely have incur a big dent in his reproductive success.

P.S. Learn something. Look up “Naturalistic Fallacy”.

By: apolytongp

apolytongp — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:01:11 +0000

It’s ok if they do that to boys, since men can father lots of children. But they should not do it to girls since they represent something that should be cherished and protected.

By: coach Rick

coach Rick — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:13:46 +0000

Well said, Troy.

I think I’ll quote you on the front page tomorrow.

By: Troy

Troy — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:18:22 +0000

Anyone that thinks that the age rule is stopping moron coaches from over-training their athletes is naive’ or inexperienced in this sport. There are no rules that are going to keep idiots from doing whatever they want to train their kids with no foresight or care about their well-being or their future. Our sport, and every other sport is rampant with these undisciplined, unapologetic, excuse-making losers that care only about their own careers and reputations, and don’t think twice about the repercussions to their athletes. And most of these dolts have little to nothing to do with Olympic caliber athletes. No rule is going to change this. The only way to change these things is the leadership at the top of the organization, the judges and the way they reward difficulty comparative to mastery, and the continuing efforts to train coaches and educate them as to what is important in training. Something I would be interested in pursuing is if there is some way for meet referees, judges, etc. to start filing reports on coaches who have several gymnasts at a meet doing things that are obviously “over their heads”. We have all been to meets and seen this tool that has his kids flipping vaults that they have probably never made safely in practice. Why are there no sanctions for this jerk? What is stopping that guy/girl from going back in the gym and continuing to put his/her kids at risk? No one is telling him/her not to. I’ve heard judges complain about a certain coach and their dread in having to watch his/her kids compete. Why are we not doing something about that? Think of a football player at age 10 coming on to the field without a helmet because his coach told him that he didn’t need one. The ref would send him right back to the sideline and I’m pretty sure the coach would be dealt with by the organization. Why do we not have similar oversight? I, for one, am sick of watching some coaches disregard the best interest of the gymnast because of their own stupidity, and the rest of us looking the other way.

By: Ono No Komachi

Ono No Komachi — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:37:12 +0000

There is no method of age determination accurate enough for the purpose being described. Even methods used to determine the age of dead people are only rough estimates (+/- 5 years).

The age rule is not enforceable – period. In it’s present form, the rule benefits only those willing to cheat.

Dump it.